Firs of all – the usual disclaimer applies – this is my personal opinion, blah, blah
The first positive comment to my VirusTotal uploader came in which is cool, however it brought up two issues:
The fist would be: please don’t use this tool to scan your entire collection, performing a small DoS attack on VirusTotal. It was written to be as gentle
as possible to the service including:
- no multithreading, samples are submitted one by one
- it waits until the previous sample is fully scanned before it moves on to the next sample
- it uses a custom user agent string, so that VirusTotal can filter it / prioritize it if they wish
However the main topic of this post is the idiotic test (if you can call it that – it was more a marketing spin) carried out by Untagle. If you didn’t hear about it yet, the gist of it was: pull out around 30 samples from our a** (one of which was EICAR!), scan them with some AV engines and declare that ClamAV (which coincidently is used in their product) is good enough
. This is wrong on so many levels. You can read the a good writeup on the McAfee AVERT blog, however the most infuriating thing (for me) was the constant pondering on the fact that AV testing is not open
, AV testing needs to be peer reviewed
. My response is:
- Don’t try to climb out the s*** hole you put yourself into. You’ve made some (very) bad moves, now admit to them
- Have you’ve heart about AV-Comparatives (full disclosure: I have no relation with them)? It is a venue whicg (as opposed to your little show) does tests that are fully independent, recognized industry wide and fully documented (as far as the methodology).
- There has been many claims (including the McAfee blog and this result – generated with my script by a third party) – which seems to be true – that the scanners were misconfigured and the detection rate would have been much higher, would you have taken the time to configure them properly
- Making malware publicly available is stupid at best, illegal at worst
I agree that many AV tests
in magazines are completely irrelevant and bogus, but – congratulations – you’ve managed to make something even less valuable and accurate.
PS. This criticism is not directed towards ClamAV, the open source movement, etc. Its sole target is the Untangle test
. ClamAV is a reasonably good AV engine with its main focus being threats which arrive in the inbox (it being more a gateway product rather than a desktop product)
One response to “Letting competent people do their jobs”
Hi,
I share your opinion..
– I added a note to warn people about note using the script to scan to many files.
– I shared the “untangle” results of your script to:
. Try to prevent people do scan the same sample of virures… (limiting the load on virusTotal)
. Let the reader make is own opinions about the validity of the “untangle virus test” by comparing untangle and virusTotal results..
Thank you